Mexico? not sure...

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Here are a few pics from last night. The first 2 are of analog "Canal 9" that I believe the transmitter is XERV 9 in Reynosa. The other pic came in as channel 14(although I see what distinctively looks like a "7" in the upper right hand corner.:confused: I'd seen this ch 14 in my ch list before, but this is the first time a pic showed up(for about 15 seconds).

I also pickup up XHAB 7.1 RF 30, and XERVHD 9.1 RF 19. Not sure where those originate. Last time I thought I'd pickup up a channel from Mexico turns out it was actually carried as a KNVO subchannel. Hopefully one of these may qualify as Mexico. Thanks.


Update: OK it looks like the third pic is likely XHOR 14 in Matamoros. The "7" logo signifying Azteca. I can't find anything disputing the first 2 pics being Reynosa. Looks like I finally made it south of the border. :) Any input is appreciated.

[Danny]

Those are nice logs and pictures, Mike! You are correct about all of your logs. You now have logged Mexico TVs and DTVs.

I haven't decoded a DTV from Mexico, yet. However, I have seen the analogs from Matamoros and Reynosa many times (including last night).

Here is a page that shows a supered text *local* ID from XHOR-14 that I was lucky to catch in 2008:

http://tvdxexpo.com/mexicotvdx/mextvdxsampler.html

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Thanks Danny. Yeah you've made quite a few trips to Mexico. Wow!
Couple of questions. What do you mean by "supered text? And also what do you know about those DTV stations I mentioned earlier? (XHAB 7.1 RF 30, and XERVHD 9.1 RF 19) Thanks.

[Danny]

Your picture of XHOR-14 shows signs of CCI. It would sure be interesting to know who the culprit could be...That might have been a better catch than XHOR.

XHRIO-2, XHAB-7, XERV-9, and XHREY-12 all had severe CCI here last night. I suspect Tampico. I haven't seen Tampico or Veracruz via tropo in a few years.

[Danny]

Supered text IDs are the common type of *local* ID used by Mexico network relayers. Pictures of many supered text IDs can be seen on both of my Websites, as well as a very thorough explanation on tvdxtips.com. Some of the ID photos were provided by Jeff Kruszka and Chris Dunne.

I don't know anything about the DTVs, except that some list does indicate that they are on the air *in* Mexico. Doug might have them listed. I think Cantu has them listed.

Beware of Cantu's many outdated local TV logos for Mexico if you check his site.

[w9wi]

I don't know anything about the DTVs, except that some list does indicate that they are on the air *in* Mexico. Doug might have them listed.

I don't think I have these. I don't have much on Mexican DTVs -- the government released a list of DTV channel allotments, but they're not being specific by station. (for example, we know that channels 15, 21, 23, and 27 are assigned for use in Reynosa, but we don't know which one is to be used by XHOR, which by XERV, etc...) (I just pulled those numbers out of the air, I don't remember whether 15/21/23/27 are actually to be used at Reynosa)

I need to be doing some research on that. There's a lot more official Mexican information out there, but a LOT of it is in huge folders full of unindexed PDF files in which 90% of the material is related to cellular phones. Pretty slow for us folks with slow 'Net connections!

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What do you mean by "supered text?

"Supered" is short for "Superimposed". The identification is superimposed over the program -- it's not part of the program itself.

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And also what do you know about those DTV stations I mentioned earlier? (XHAB 7.1 RF 30, and XERVHD 9.1 RF 19)

I think you can reasonably assume these are the digital transmitters of XHAB-TV (analog 7 Matamoros) and XERV-TV. (analog 9 Reynosa) I don't know any further details.

I think it is possible this is (by a considerable amount) the longest distance at which Mexican DTVs have been received. I know Dennis Smith and Don Voegle have received Tijuana DTVs in Santa Barbara, but obviously Louisiana<=>Tamaulipas is considerably further!

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The photo of "El Clima 9" must be XERV's analog signal. XERV is just across the border from McAllen, just under her right hand, about at the bottom of the "86". (I'm surprised the temperatures on this map are in deg.F, though obviously at least this part of the weather forecast is directed at viewers in the U.S..)

Yes, the "7" is XHOR TV Azteca.

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Your picture of XHOR-14 shows signs of CCI. It would sure be interesting to know who the culprit could be...That might have been a better catch than XHOR.

Yep!

I would suggest the best bets are KXPX-CA Corpus Christi (8kw) and KFAM-LP Lake Charles. (150kw) There are four other analog LP stations in Texas on channel 14 though they're all pretty far inland. While I don't claim my Mexican records are complete, I only know of one other analog station in Mexico on channel 14 east of the mountains - XHLUT San Carlos. (there are two in Sonora and Mexicali but neither is at all likely on the Gulf Coast.)

[pjdyer]

XERV's RF-19, not ultra-rare here
http://www.qsl.net/wa5iyx/images/xerv-dt-19.1z.jpg
Their superimposed ident from long ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGcO3lSVPk
and XEWO's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsnvbEmdBOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCyI98eEnaw
As best as XHAB can get
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjACMj6Gnb4

73, Pat - WA5IYX

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[QUOTE]I think you can reasonably assume these are the digital transmitters of XHAB-TV (analog 7 Matamoros) and XERV-TV. (analog 9 Reynosa) I don't know any further details.

I think it is possible this is (by a considerable amount) the longest distance at which Mexican DTVs have been received. I know Dennis Smith and Don Voegle have received Tijuana DTVs in Santa Barbara, but obviously Louisiana<=>Tamaulipas is considerably further!

That is certainly interesting info. Thanks Doug.
Not sure why I didn't take the pic of XHAB 7.1 RF30, but here's the one I got of XERV DT 9.1 RF 19.
The distance to my home is 466 miles.

[Danny]

Mike, I think Doug is correct: You are the first to decode DTVs from Mexico at such a long distance. Congratulations!

Pat, I need to go to the library and look at your DX videos. From your posts on TV/FM Skip Log, I gather that you have been busy going through your tapes.

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[QUOTE]Mike, I think Doug is correct: You are the first to decode DTVs from Mexico at such a long distance. Congratulations!

Thanks Danny. Having completed 6 months in the DXing game, I didnt even recognize the impact of the catches! :) Glad I got a pic of one of them.

[Jim Thomas]

Gentlemen,

Since I publish the "Emisoras de FM" book, I also have access to the México TV files. That said, I have attached the analog TV files and the DTV files (known as TDT in México) as PDF files. These are courtesy of Cofetel, the broadcast licensing authority in México. The one thing I note is missing with the DTV files is licensed power for each station.

The analog TV file is current to 12-30-09 and the digital TV (TDT) is current to 9-30-09.

[cd637299]

Fred Cantu's site www.mexicoradiotv.com is a good place to find Mexican DTVs....I dunno how up-to-date it is, but Fred works pretty hard at maintaining it.

cd

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Yeah Cris that's where I identified my Aztca logo.

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[QUOTE]I think you can reasonably assume these are the digital transmitters of XHAB-TV (analog 7 Matamoros) and XERV-TV. (analog 9 Reynosa) I don't know any further details.

With that I have a logging question. Do the digital transmitters (XHAB 7.1 RF 30, and XERVHD 9.1 RF 19)count as separate catches from their analog channels considering they have different channel numbers? Thanks.

[w9wi]

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With that I have a logging question. Do the digital transmitters (XHAB 7.1 RF 30, and XERVHD 9.1 RF 19)count as separate catches from their analog channels considering they have different channel numbers? Thanks.

I count digital TV as a totally different type of DX from analog. Just like I count AM and FM radio separately.

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OK thats sort of the way I was leaning, but wasnt sure of the general consensus. Thanks.