UnID ch5 from WY area

[Electrode]

Saw this on 5 during an opening that produced KTWO and KCWC. Does the logo ring a bell with anyone?

[Dave-OR]

It's really hard to tell from that screen capture, but it seems awfully likely that you would have had KGWL Lander if you also had KCWC. Ryan's got a current logo on his site and maybe it'll look familiar.

Dave Williams
Redmond, OR

[cckadlec]

Hmm hmm hmm. From my point of view, your logo looks like Bismarck. Wouldn't be the first time it's come in here... and from my logs from that same night, being 30 miles from you, my log shows Cheyenne on Channel 5... but UNSURE of that also. Anyway, I'll post up my complete log so maybe you can compare notes/logs or whatever you might have... Looks like I didn't even start DXing until 9pm the night you posted this... so I'm guessing this won't help much!!! hahah... but worth a try. Ch 5 didn't come in good enough for any screencaps here.

05/17 2 KNOP NBC North Platte Nebraska 775 miles
2 KTVQ CBS Billings Montana 1121 miles
*2 KTWO ABC Casper Wyoming 1028 miles
2 KWGN WB Denver Colorado 1010 miles
*2 KXMA CBS Dickinson North Dakota 854 miles
*3 KLNE PBS Lexington Nebraska 731 miles
4 KDUH ABC Scottsbluff Nebraska 907 miles
*5 KGWN CBS Cheyenne Wyoming 976 miles

5/17/06 21:00 4 Es "KOTA Territory News ABC" logos and news previews clear without any
Channel 2 signal "Lost" coming in in and out with another (recorded
for capture) This is KDUH Scottsbluff, Nebraska, b&w, colour [SE]
2 UNID Es breaking through [SE]
21:05 2 NBC match, unknown station
4 digital TV-like black static interference; KOTA out
21:34 4 KDUH out with antenna due west; local TMJ in
2 NBC KNOP match, more sound than picture, "Nebraskaland Nat'l Bank" commercial
and "__ Coverage You Can Count On?" (N Platte NE) with another UNID struggling in
22:08 4 KDUH out with antenna due west; local TMJ in; no signal whatsoever to SE
2 UNID poor signal with Es pattern, but likely local WBBM [WSW]
22:22 2 UNID after several minutes observing: programming matches no other networks,
then clear ABC network logo (centre screen ad), eventually some CBS programming
sound clearly
22:25 2 ABC UNID with no programming match is west coast showing of "Lost"; picture
and sound of "Lost" often with very good image, yet on and off picture or sound
of other no-match programming - either Lost picture with brief other channel
sound.
22:28 2 WB positive network ads, brief WB ad pictures with Lost in/out, "WB 2 News"
ads mentioning Colorado, perfect audio of WB 2
22:34 2 ABC UNID showing "Lost" has very good audio and very good colour picture
22:44 2 ABC UNID matches as KTWO Casper (due to being only ABC within hundreds of miles)
audio and video in very clear with colour - very impressive and best all year
22:50 3 formerly decent local now being overtaken by intense Es (local barely holds on)
4 formerly good local TMJ now overtaken by Es lines, still NBC
22:52 3 documentary b&w with near perfect audio and in/out picture, local picture in/out
likely KLNE with black history/music history; good b&w picture with good audio
22:59 3 local back in with news but other station sound in/out still
23:00 4 local back in with news but still rough
23:12 2 very intense Es static, no clear signals but maintaining ABC background signal
23:13 2 WB Denver shows - "This is WB 2 News at 9," weather reports, commercials, etc
WB remains for some time in/out alone with good sound and picture quality
23:20 3 PBS appears to be programming match for KLNE Lexington; currently showing local
23:23 5 CBS positive network match (CSI/Invasion?) in b&w good - if local, should be news
23:27 2 WB 2 News at 9 sound in good, ABC picture back with commercials/Invasion
22:44 2 UNID CBS commercials with good picture and in/out sound, CSI ads, then CSI show
2 UNID Montana election ads in very good audio behind CBS (above) video
Montana CBS only match is KTVQ, while CBS image atop MT audio only match KXMA
[antenna still facing west since about 10 o'clock]
22:58 2 KTVQ positive ID with "Q2" logo on brief news promo - no audio, almost zero video
23:09 2 KTVQ clear full-screen logos during 9 o'clock news, split-screen pictures, visible
00:45 2 KTVQ appears to be hanging on by a thread with Letterman with spurts
01:00 2 Es lines (on/off weak KTVQ) ridiculously still in, but... end viewing (Es until 2am)


Excuse the formatting... I have the same type of log for every night I DXed this season if you ever need anything.

--Chris Kadlec
Fremont, Michigan
http://www.beaglebass.com/dx_index.htm

[Danny]

There has always been confusion about KGWL-5 Lander and KGWN-5 Cheyenne. Those stations are common here via Es.

Ryan's site doesn't have the correct logo for KGWL.

KGWN is "CBS5" and uses the logo which is on Ryan's site.

KGWL relays KGWC-14 Casper and the IDs/promos are for "KGWC CBS 14." (Doug's site also indicates this as fact.) There are also promos for "UPN26" in Casper.

An old KGWC-14 ID can be seen on my site:
http://nladxer.tripod.com/usac/relayedids.htm

A current logo can be seen here:
http://www.wyomingcars.com/tv.html

Danny





It's really hard to tell from that screen capture, but it seems awfully likely that you would have had KGWL Lander if you also had KCWC. Ryan's got a current logo on his site and maybe it'll look familiar.

Dave Williams
Redmond, OR